Though the
events recorded about the tower of Babel
take up a scant 9 verses in the Bible (Gen
11.1-9) its effects are visible through the
ages and are revealed not only in the
languages we speak, and the physical differences
among people groups; but the account also
foreshadows the times at the end - and the
"man of lawless" foretold in scripture (2 Thess 2.3-4). As we move inexorably
further into the last days, the account of
the events of Babel remind us not only of
the lawless leader - the antichrist - to be revealed, but also
of the heart of the people who refused to
obey God, those making them easy targets of
deception. It serves as a warning: will you
be among those who believe and obey, or
refuse to obey and believe, are deceived and suffer God's
judgment? This discussion reveals us not
only about the true meaning of the events at
Babel, but serves as a reminder that God
wants everyone to "repent and believe the
good news." (Mark 1.15)
Transcript
Normally
you start with a little anecdote, but I'm
going to be going over a lot of stuff
tonight. [Checking the screen] We're up
there, good. So I'm going to skip the
anecdotes and jokes and then I'm going to
hop right in.
We'll start with a quick review of the
account of the Tower of Babel. Some say
Bay-bel. I have a reason, it makes
more sense to call it Bab-bel, we'll get to
that. So after the flood, we have the
account of the flood, Genesis six through
eight,
and after he comes off, God gives Noah and
his family the promise of the rainbow. He's
not going to flood the earth again.
And he gives them a command, go forth and
fill the earth.
Right after that, shortly after, the people
go down from Mount Ararat and they find a
plane in Shinar. Shinar is a place that has
a flat land and they decide they don't want
to build or they don't want to be dispersed.
They want to stay there and build a name for
themselves, create a name for themselves.
So they decide that they're going to build a
city and a tower to create a name for
themselves, a tower that's going to reach
into the heavens. God sees what they're
doing, goes down and says, "Well, you know,
if they continue this, they're going to be
encouraged and I don't want to do that." So
he stops it by changing their languages and
they're dispersed over all the land. So
that's a summary of what we're looking at.
And as we
go through this, as we complete this, we're
going to see that the first 11 chapters of
Genesis is a foreshadowing of all the major
historical biblical events from Adam and Eve
in the garden to the Tower Babel. You guys
may recognize this.
Anybody been to Ken Ham's Answers Creation
Museum or Arc Encounter? So this is, I think
the top is from the museum.
The second one is from the Ark. Great place.
If you haven't been there, highly
recommended.
But anyway,
Genesis 1 through 11 foreshadows the major
events of the Gospel and the World History
and we'll see that the events at the Tower
Babel are the end cap for this foreshadowing
of events that we see in Genesis 1 through
11.
So as we go through, I'm going to make some
points. I'm going to point out signposts and
endpoints.
So the sign points are going to be
represented with this symbol over here. And
this is something that's going to foreshadow
something at the end or something to come.
So it's happening in the past in the days of
Noah or at the beginning and it's going to
foreshadow a time at the end.
And then I'm going to point out when we see
a completion of something or something
that's an established fact, I'm going to
mark it with this truth flag. Something that
we know to be true, something that's
happened, something that's verifiable.
So I'll be pointing those out as we go
along. So there is our truth flag and what
we're going to see as we go through the
results from the Tower Babel, I'll give you
a little foreshadowing myself.
We're going to see the origin of distinct
languages, the origin of distinct people
groups and genetic traits, the origin of
distinct nations, the origin of the city of
rebellion, which is given a famous or
perhaps I should say infamous name.
We'll do that.
But let's start with the depiction. All
right, so you may see a depiction like that
on our website. We had a picture like this.
It was by Pieter Brugal back in 1563. A lot
of people have depicted it as a round tower
spiraling up. Most scholars, archaeologists
believe it was not something round, but it
was what is called a ziggurat, ziggurat,
which is basically a stepped pyramid.
If you want to build something strong,
something sturdy, something that you can
build high, something that's easy to build,
what you're going to build is a ziggurat
because it's very sturdy, very big
foundational base.
And you'll see that these ziggurats are
marked by these steps in front because they
typically put a temple tower at the top. So
the steps so you can get to the top, unlike
the pyramids, they have no steps. The
ziggurats typically have a step. And this is
the one that's in southern Iraq. Saddam
Hussein tried to restore that one.
But we're going to start with who some
people believe built the tower. We're going
to look and see if that belief is correct.
So if we look at the first century
historian, Josephus, Jewish, he was charged
by the Romans to give account of the Jewish
nation because the Jews were kind of a thorn
in their side
and they wanted to understand them. So
Josephus writes this massive tome, actually
writes two. And he talks about the
antiquities of the Jews and he has an
account of the Tower Babel.
And he identifies Nimrod as the builder of
the city and the tower. If you look at some
modern commentators, this is David Rohl.
He's an Egyptologist. He's done a lot of
work in this area and other areas concerning
Egypt. He also thinks that Nimrod is the
builder of the tower. So what we're going to
look at tonight is, is that a correct view?
Is Nimrod the builder?
And this is
a commonly depicted tower here. This is
Etemenanki in Babylon. Some scholars will
say this was the original tower Babel. We're
going to look at that. Is this it?
We're going to take a look at that. So let's
start with an example, examination of
Nimrod.
Who is
Nimrod? So scripture tells us that Cush was
the father of Nimrod who grew to be a mighty
warrior on the earth.
He was the mighty hunter before the Lord.
That's why it said like Nimrod, a mighty
hunter before the Lord. Then it talks about
the first kingdoms being in Babylon, Erech,
Akkad, and Calneh in Shinar. And then it
goes on to talk about where he went and
built.
So on the right here, you see I give you a
little genealogy. So starting with Noah, you
see that Nimrod is a descendant of Noah. You
see the flood here was 2349 BC. So that's
just to put it in context. But what I want
to point out most importantly is this name -
that he is listed as a mighty hunter. So
let's look at this enigmatic Nimrod.
So who is
he? Can we identify him? If you look at the
scholarly book, it's called the BDB, the
Brown Driver Briggs. It's a lexicon of the
Hebrew language used for looking up the
words in the Old Testament. They identify
his name as a Babylonian, God or King.
Egyptologist David Rohl, who I previously
mentioned, thinks he is Enmerkar in this
Sumerian myth called Enmerkar and
the Lord of Aratta. We're going to come
back to that.
Doug Petrovich, now you may have seen him.
Have any of you seen Is Genesis History?
Very good documentary on establishing the
truth of Genesis. He was in it. He believes
that Nimrod is Sargon the first of Akkad and
he says he can make that case "with absolute
certainty."
We have the late archaeologist David P.
Livingston who identified him as Gilgamesh
as the Gilgamesh and the epic of Gilgamesh,
the Gilgamesh epic. And then we have a
number of commentators who say, well, what's
more important is the meaning of the name.
They say the name means "to rebel" or "we
will rebel". You see that, for instance, in
the Moody Bible commentary. If you have an
NIV study Bible, they say the same thing.
So let's look at some of the clues that we
have and see if we can identify who this
Nimrod is or even if it's worth identifying.
So first of all, as I said, he is called a
mighty man. It's listed three times the word
in Hebrew is "gibbor". It says he's a mighty
hunter. The question is what did he hunt?
Was it animals or as a hunter was it men?
Was he more a warrior type hunter or was it
both?
We're told he had a kingdom so thus he was a
king with centers of his kingdom in Babylon,
Erech, Akkad and Calneh all in Shinar. And
then he went and built Nineveh, Rehoboth Ir,
Calah and Resen, which is between the two.
So if we summarize what we know, first and
foremost is that he was a mighty man. And
here are some of the mighty men that you see
in scripture. Gideon was called a
mighty man.
Same word, gibbor, Goliath. That gives you an
idea. You know how big Goliath is? He is
listed as a mighty man. Saul and Jonathan,
David, King David, as well as David's elite
guard.
You know, David had this guard of three men
who were his personal guards. They were all
listed as mighty men.
And then he's listed as a hunter. Now
interestingly, the hunter motif is used in
the ancient days for a king. A king is often
depicted as killing a lion as you see in
these two reliefs. These are both reliefs of
kings killing a lion. And in fact, we even
have that motif with David, right? Before he
goes to slay Goliath, he's trying to
convince Saul that he should let him do
it. David tells Saul, "I have killed both
the lion and the bear."
So we even have this killing the lion motif
in the Bible.
So killing a lion is often used for kings to
show their might and their power. And we
have this of Nimrod. He ruled over kingdoms.
Josephus says he was a tyrant king. Now
Josephus, I don't know where - he does this
embellishment. I don't know if he has
extra [biblical] data, but he says that
Nimrod was mad at God and he wanted to make
sure he was mad because God flooded the
earth. And he wanted to make sure that if
God ever decided to flood the earth again,
though he promised not to, if he ever
decided to do that again, he had a place to
flee to. He was going to make this tower
tall enough so the floodwaters couldn't
reach him.
So that, according to Josephus, is Nimrod's
plan. One of the reasons why he wanted to
build it. The Living Bible translates
"gibbor" as king. So once again, we're back
to that king motif.
Now David Rohl, that Egyptologist, believing
that he also is a king, believes he should
find him in what is called the Sumerian king
list. That's what you see depicted over
here.
The Sumerians kept a list of their kings.
Now they've got these huge - overlong times
for the reign and they put their reigns in
the thousands of years. So obviously that's
not correct, but they believe that the
listing of the kings is correct. So Rohl
thinks he should be able to see Nimrod if
he's a real king and the Sumerians kept a
list of all the kings, he thinks he should
find them there. So he comes up with this
intriguing suggestion concerning the name.
So what he finds is this Enmerkar. Kar is
actually appended to the name Enmer means
hunter. So now he makes this comparison. We
have Enmer the hunter and Nimrod the hunter.
They both have hunter at the end of the
name. But he's got a problem.
So the original Hebrew did not include
vowels. So he suggests if they're just
looking at the consonants, Enmer would be
this top. But the name is Nimrod. So he has
this extra D he has to contend with. So what
does he say? Well commentators suggest that
it was added to make the account about
rebellion.
Rohl notes that well there are a bunch of
puns in the Old Testament. And so using a
pun to make it about rebellion.
It's
actually true. There are a number of puns in
the Old Testament. In fact we're going to
look at a number of them just so you can see
that it really is the case. And Roll
suggested the D was added to turn Enmer and
to Nimrod. So he thinks that Enmer and that
pagan story is Nimrod. But his suggestion
about puns doesn't work. And one of the
reasons it doesn't work, there are a number
of reasons, but one of the reasons is if you
look at how puns work it doesn't really work
as a pun.
So how do puns work? Puns work generally
because they refer to real words that people
are familiar with. So this past summer I had
to renew the license plate on one of my
cars.
And I got the notice in the mail and this is
what it said.
"Oh, Cell no!" So every adult here knows
what this pun is playing on. He's made a
word play there.
We went to see Hoover Dam this past summer.
This is the entrance, the signs that you see
this is an overhead view. And they made a
number of puns on the name Hoover Dam. So
and they were all on the word dam. If - when
we took the tour - so we took the tour and
the tour guide said, "Do you know the
picture policy here at Hoover Dam? You can
take all the 'dam' pictures you want." That
was their joke. And when you get to the
souvenir shop they've got all these "dam"
mugs.
So you see
they're playing on words that everybody
knows everybody would instantly recognize.
That's how puns work.
You would recognize the words because the
real words.
The problem with Rohl's suggestion is that
Nimrod is not a common word. It's very
uncommon. When you look at the BDB - and we
looked at before - this is Nimrod and you
can see the meaning is "wholly unknown." And
in fact it's probably a Babylonian name
which cast doubt that it refers to rebellion.
If it's some Babylonian god or some king,
it's not referring to rebellion.
So his pun idea does not work. And there are
other problems.
Another one, so if you start with what he
started with, he started with the consonants
NMR. So I looked up what is NMR in Hebrew?
Well it turns out NMR, the 'Namer' is a
leopard which is very interesting because
you'll see that in the Bible the leopard is
associated with the antichrist. I'm going to
come back to this. Very interesting
association.
So the word for rebellion is marad. And so
you would have marad which is here, NMR or
MRD in Nimrod.
But since he starts with Enmer, he needs to
add the D whereas if he had started with
something else, he would need to add the N.
Point being that when you look at this, his
suggestion doesn't work. And his problem is
since he doesn't believe that the Bible is
inspired, he gets things backwards. He
believes it starts with some pagan account
instead of what God gave to in this account,
in this case Moses. He believes that the
Hebrews drew from the Sumerians because he
believes that the Sumerians is an older
culture when actually the account came from
God. God gave it to Moses, Moses brought it
down.
So he's got it backwards. But since like
many secular commentators, he doesn't
believe in the inspiration of the
Scripture, he doesn't believe in the
validity of the Scriptures, he gets a number
of things wrong. And I'll point out a few
more as we go on.
So we're going to go look and see if we can
identify this tower and we want to do it
based on historical truths. And we want to
do it to make sure when we're looking at
these historical truths, they have to be
within the historical timeframe. So here's
some dates that we're very certain of. If
you start with creation, that was about 4000
BC. This is going by Bishop Ussher's
chronology. Some of you may have heard
Bishop Ussher. He did a chronology based -
starting at Genesis, going through the
genealogies and all the accounts. And he
came up with a data of 4004. Some people
question it. I looked at it somewhat
closely. I think there were a few errors
around the time of the Exodus, but when
you're talking about the original date, I
would say that's pretty accurate.
We're confident of the date of the flood.
That was about 2349 BC. Date of the Exodus,
1446, very confident of that date based on 1
Kings 6:1. It gives us a clue. The
destruction of Jerusalem, very confident. We
know when that happened, when Nebuchadnezzar
came in and destroyed Jerusalem, 586-587
BC. And we know the birth of Jesus. We're in
what? 2025? So some 2025 years ago. This is
off by a few years because of some errors
they made. You can ask me about them later.
But his date was probably, his birth was
actually probably around 5 or 6 BC. But, you
know, 5 years, is minuscule compared to the
thousands of years other people think
it's off.
So as we look, we want to compare things to
this time frame and make sure that they're
falling within the right time frame because
if they don't fall within the right time
frame, something's wrong. They have to be
consistent with the Word of God because we
know that all scriptures God breathes, 2
Timothy 3.16. So we want to make sure it
agrees with what scripture says. And we
don't want to reject supernatural events
because they're supernatural.
So there are a lot of scholars who would
say, well, that can't happen because it's
supernatural. But we believe in a
supernatural God. We're not going to throw
out something just because it's supernatural
like a lot of archaeologists
and Egyptologists do. Okay. So now this is
our foundation for our investigation of both
Nimrod and the Tower.
These are the things that we're going to
look for.
So accordingly, the first thing we can
reject is the Rohl's suggestion
because since he doesn't feel that the
scriptures are inspired, he feels to
believe, he feels free to say that
the whole account is copied from a pagan
source. Well, I don't believe it was copied
from a pagan source. And he suggests that
the hero's name, the pagan hero's name was
used and changed to
make it a story about rebellion.
And so he misses the entire point of the
account. Not only does he miss the entire
point of the account, which I'll get to, but
he misses when the account was written. So
since he doesn't believe in the chronology
of the Bible and he doesn't believe it came
from God, he says, well, when would the
Hebrews have seen this? Well, they probably
would have seen it when they got carried off
into captivity by Nebuchadnezzar. Well, what
was that? Well, that was 586, 587 BC. So he
moves the whole account from slightly after
the flood to the date of the captivity. So
that is entirely wrong.
Plus, he misses the entire supernatural
event of the changing of the languages. So
he believes that it's just some
misinterpretation by the Hebrews. They
didn't understand what was going on, so they
just made it up. So he just rejects, like
other secularists, he just rejects the whole
thing. So we don't want to do that. So let's
get back to our question.
Who is
Nimrod? Well, I'm going to suggest that more
important than who he is, is what he
represents. God didn't give us a whole lot
of clues about who he is. So if Petrovich is
right, he's Sargon I. But I don't think
that's what's important.
I think it's what he represents as a symbol
that's important.
So his significance is that of being a
foreshadow of something to come.
So what does he do? He was a builder of--
was he the builder of the city and of the
tower? And are there reasons to believe that
he wasn't the builder of the city and the
tower? So let's look at the record. And in
passing, if you were, again, at the Arkin
counter, this is their depiction. This is
Ham and his wife.
They call her Kazia. I believe that they
picked up that name from extra-biblical
texts. So, but what I find interesting is
Ham is generally considered the father of
dark-skinned people,
but they depict him as basically the same
shade as his brothers. He's not
dark-skinned. The dark-skinned genes,
according to the AIG, came from his wife.
Well, we're going to look at that, too, when
we get to that. So I just thought I'd point
that out so when we come to it. And if Ham
is indeed the progenitor of dark-skinned
people, then Nimrod was probably
dark-skinned as well.
I think that makes sense in terms of who his
father is. So let's look at Nimrod's sign as
a signpost of future events. So we know he
was a mighty man. Mighty men are kings and
warriors. His name was Nimrod. Some suggest
it is reminiscent of rebellion. I would
suggest that it's more reminiscent of the
leopard. 'Namer', I believe, is closer to
Nimrod than 'Marad'. So one way or another,
this is a guy who's against God. He uses his
strength and power as a weapon to hunt and
conquer. He became a king in Babylon and
these other cities. And then he left Shinar
and went to Assyria and built some other
cities.
So he became a king in Babylon. So how did
that happen?
Did he just stroll in and they say, "Make me
a king." Did they just vote him in as a
king? Or as a mighty man did he go in and
conquer? So let's map out his exploits. So
here is Shinar.
There's Babylon, Erech, Akkad, Ur and
Nippur, which some believe is Calneh.
There's some question - and all of these are
in Shinar. And the Bible says this was the
beginning of his kingdom.
Then it says he went and he built Nineveh,
Calah and Resin, which is between the two.
So that's where he went and built.
So if he started in those lower cities and
he built the others,
then it looks like he became a king in
cities that were already existing. So the
Bible says he went and built these cities up
here. It's very specific. He went and built
Nineveh, Calah and Resin. He didn't build
any of these cities. So if he didn't build
any of these cities and this is the area,
Shinar is where the tower is and the city,
then it looks like he wasn't the builder of
that city.
He went and built cities in Assyria, but not
where Babel was.
So it appears that the initial cities where
he became a king were already existing. So
the city where Babel would have been already
existed, which means he didn't build it. And
if he wasn't the builder of the city and
perhaps not the tower, what is his
significance? Well, I would say he is a
signpost on a lawless one. Why? Because what
are we given? Genesis 10:10.
He is a mighty man, as revealed, who begins
to conquer. And what do we see? At the end
times, we see a powerful man, who is
revealed, who goes out to conquer.
Revelation 6:2.
He's a mighty man wielding power who
conquers and rules.
And at the end of time, we see both from
Daniel and from Revelation, this little
horn, he's called a powerful man wielding
power who rules with authority. Very much
like what Nimrod did. So I see him as
signpost, a foreshadowing of the lawless
one, as the Apostle Paul calls him, of the
one to come, mentioned in Second
Thessalonians and in Revelation 13.
Particularly when you consider Namer, the
name is a symbol, the leopard is a symbol of
the Antichrist. John records "the beast I
saw resemble a leopard." [Rev 13.2] So if
you're going to make a pun, I think that's
closer to Namer than to Marad.
So let's go on to the tower.
There are lots of questions about the tower.
So the first question that they ask, right,
was the tower was built in the land of
Shinar? So did Shinar exist? And of course,
we have scholars on both sides of the issue.
And I'll play you a clip from both, from one
who supports it and one who doesn't.
So here's one who doesn't.
[Video] "No knowledgeable person believes the account of the Tower of
Babel as historical fact, or that all the
races and language of the earth sprang from
this one little area in Mesopotamia."
[Dr. Rocco A. Errico, Professor of Aramaic
Studies]
So there's the con side, the pro side
- Did it exist?
[Video] "The biblical story of Babel is completely consistent with all of
the evidence. Anyone who denies this fact is
simply engaging in fantasy or speculation."
[Dr. John Oller, Jr. Professor of
Linguistics]
So as I said, you can find scholars on
either side. You probably find a scholar for
whatever you want to believe. But what you
should do is do the research. Look at the
evidence, which is what we're going to do.
We're going to look at the evidence tonight.
So what kind of evidence?
Well, we're going to look at hard evidence
such as the writings from the ancient
cultures. We're going to look at bricks that
have writings on them found at the location.
And some of these bricks have names on them.
One of those names being Nebuchadnezzar,
King of Babylon.
[Video] "So Jeff, as you know, there is many bricks have a stamp in the
Ishtar gate. And the stamp belongs to King
Nebuchadnezzar. And now I will show you what
they wrote. 'Dinger Nakudu Uri Ussar,' it's
meaning Nebuchadnezzar. 'Lugal Kadin
Geraki,' it's meaning King of Babylon."
So we have
these bricks with Nebuchadnezzar's name on
it. And these bricks were used to build the
Ishtar Gate. This is a recreation of the
Ishtar Gate, which was the entrance to
Babylon. So that's one type of evidence
we'll use. We have another example. So from
Nippur in Iraq, there's the name of a
kingdom, which is Ur, and the king's name is
Ur-Nammu.
[Video]
"Abbas recognizes the inscriptions. It's
cuneiform, an ancient system of block
writing, first developed in this area around
5,000 years ago. It is the oldest written
language ever discovered. He reads the
ancient script.
'Urdinger Namu, Lugal Urimki,' it's talking
about the King Ur-Nammu, the founder of the
Ur three dynasty, King of the land, King of
Sumer and Akkad, King of Ur, the meaning is
very
clear. Ur-Nammu.'" [Abbas
Al-Husseini-Archaeologist]
So I pointed this one out because of course
Ur is another city mentioned in the Bible.
That's where Abraham is from.
And being in the Bible, of course, you had
scholars who had to say, "Well, Ur never
existed." Therefore Abraham didn't exist.
So now they came up with these bricks and
now they have to backtrack and say, "Yeah, I
guess it did exist because we've got these
bricks, not only with the name of the city,
but the name of the King of the city."
So similarly, we have tablets that mention
Shinar. Critics doubt it that Shinar
existed, but now we have these tablets:
[Video]
"For centuries, skeptics challenged the
Bible's accuracy on the Tower of Babel
because they believed the land of Shinar as
referred to in the Bible had never existed.
To understand this point better, we asked
Professor David C. Duel, an expert in Old
Testament studies, to explain.
'Scholars and students of the Bible
questioned the location, even the existence,
of the land of Shinar. They knew that
Babylon existed from eyewitness ancient
historians such as Herodotus and Strabo, who
claimed to have seen the great city. But
they had no proof, apart from the Bible,
that the area around Babylon was ever called
the land of Shinar.
Then in the early part of the last century,
archaeologists brought forth thousands of
cuneiform tablets, like this one.
On such tablets from Egypt, Syria, and the
Hittite and Hurrian kingdoms was the name
Shinar in various pronunciations.'" [David
C. Duel, Professor of Old Testament]
So once again, the Bible was proved correct.
There was a land called Shinar, and they've
got thousands of tablets with the name
inscribed on it. So the answer to question
one, did Shinar exist? Yes, it did. How,
what about the next question?
Well, did
Babel exist? So once again, we have to be
careful about this, and we want to make sure
the evidence is pointing to what we think it
is. Is it pointing to the right place?
Is it pointing to the right time period?
Because we looked at these bricks from
Nebuchadnezzar with Nebuchadnezzar's name on
it. Are they in the right place? Perhaps
not.
We'll have to investigate that. Are they in
the right time period? Well, definitely not.
So, when we
look at our time period, Nebuchadnezzar was
there, 586, and the Tower of Babel is way
back here. That's over a thousand years
difference. So if you're trying to use those
bricks to prove the Tower of Babel, you're
off by over
a millennium. So no, you can't use those
bricks.
But did the
city exist? Well, to answer that, we have to
understand the relationship between Babel
and Babylon.
There are some who believe that
Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, built the
Tower of Babel. Well, why would they believe
that? Well, we've seen already that it's
impossible because of the time period, but
why would they think that?
They would think that because you have to
look at the word "Babel." And before we look
at the word "Babel," we've got some dynamics
involved. So let me explain.
So this is a Hebrew word. [עמּנוְּ אֵל]
Unless
you study Hebrew, you probably don't
recognize it, but as soon as I give you the
meaning and say the word, you're going to
recognize it instantaneously. So the
translation is "God with us." The word we
usually use is "Immanuel." So one, this [God
with us] is the translation. This [Immanuel]
is a transliteration. In other words, they
just took the Hebrew characters and put them
in the characters that we understand.
What difference does that make? Well, it
makes a big difference. So let me give you a
couple examples. So you take the same
phrase, "Immanuel" that's it transliterated.
Translated it's "God with us." And you look
at Isaiah 8.8.
"And the stretching out of his wings shall
fill the breath of thy land, O Immanuel."
Here they transliterated it. They didn't
translate it.
You go down two verses, and in 8.10 it says,
"And it shall not stand for God is with us."
They didn't say, "And it shall not stand for
Immanuel," because what does that mean? What
it means is, "It shall not stand for God is
with us." So now, that's a wordplay,
actually, right? You see, he's playing on
God's name.
And so, [the] first thing you see that it
makes a difference whether you translate it
or you transliterate it, and the context,
[matters] right? The context for 8.10
demands that you translate it and not
transliterate it. So that's going to be
important. I'll give you one more.
This is another Hebrew word.
[צְבָאוֺת]This is
"zava'ot." It's a phrase used 245 times in
the Old Testament. So you probably think
that's important, right? If they use it that
many times, 245 times. The transliteration
is "zava'ot." And that's not "sabbath,"
right? This is the word "sabbath."
[שַׁבָּת]It's not "zava'ot." It's "shabbat," they
would say. The translation is "hosts," and
we find this word in James 5.4, while it's a
transliteration.
So in the King James, you read "the Lord of
Sabaoth." And I always wondered, what in the
world is that? Because it's not the Lord of
the Sabbath. That Lord of the Sabbath would
be "shabbat." Lord of the Shabbat. What it
means is the Lord of Hosts, or as the NIV
translates it, the Lord Almighty. So it's a
reference to God, and it's referencing Him
in all His glory.
But if you translate that, transliterate the
word and just transliterate it, "sabahoth,"
you have no idea what that means, because
it's not "sabbath." It's not a word in
English. So once again, you have to
understand the difference between whether
they're translating or transliterating.
Okay?
So then, one more thing before we get to our
look at Babylon.
I mentioned that there are a lot of puns in
the Old Testament.
Puns are used to emphasize a meaning in the
text. So Rohl was correct when he pointed
that out. So we look at the name "Adam." He
was so named because he was taken from the
"adamah," the ground. Adam, "adama," you see
the pun there?
So I was watching this YouTube video that
was trying to say that Adam wasn't taken
from the ground. I'm like, "Well, why is he
named Adam?" Which is based on ground. It's
based on the... He's basically named dirt.
And he's basically named dirt.
So why God name him that if he's not taken
from the ground?
Then we have "Eve," "Chava," so named
because she would become the mother of the
"Chay," "Chay," living. It's that symbol
that they often wear, the "Chay" symbol.
That's "Chava."
How about man and woman? "Ish" and "Issha,"
like in Hebrew, like in English, woman is
based on man. Hebrew is the same way.
"Issha" came from "Ish," right? God took a
rib and created woman. So you have "Issha"
from "Ish."
Once again, the words are emphasizing the
point of the text.
How about Cain? So named - which is "Qayin,"
so named because Eve "Qanah" or acquired
him, brought him
forth. There's another point we'll make on
this later. She has an interesting belief on
this, I believe.
And then we can look at Moses, "Moshe," so
named because Pharaoh's daughter "Mashah,"
him from the water.
So "Moshe," "Masha," you see there's another
word play there.
So there are all these word plays in the Old
Testament that are used to re-emphasize the
text.
All right, now that we understand that,
let's take a look at the word "Babel." So
this
[בָבֶל]
is the word "Babel" in the Hebrew.
The first thing that we're going to note is
that it's been transliterated. It has not
been translated. So when you translate the
word "Babel," the word is "babylon." And now
you understand why some people believe that
Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, could have
built the Tower of Babel because when you
translate the word, it is "Babylon."
So that would make sense to some people.
We've already seen he's in the wrong period.
So it can't be. This is where he lived.
[586 BC] And this is where the Tower of Babel
is [Shortly after the flood which was 2349
BC].
So that's one reason he can't be the
builder. We have some other reasons which
I'll get to. But while we're on Babel, I
want to point out the word play that is used
on the name "babel."
So the scripture says that is why it is
called "Babel" because there the Lord
confused the language. And since they
transliterated the word, well, they had a
choice. You can transliterate it or you can
translate it.
If you transliterate it, you keep a word
play because we have this word "babble,"
which means incoherent speech, which is kind
of what was going on. So we get that idea,
but you miss the meaning of the word, which
is "Babylon." In Hebrew, when you read it,
the city was called
"BaBeL" because there God
"BaLaL" ed the language.
You see that? "Babel," "Balel," very close,
the word play. It's only different by one
letter. And the point is God is trying to
get you to remember that at "Babel," he
"Balel"ed - confused - the language. So by
transliterating the word, you sacrifice the
meaning. Right? You miss that, what God
confused was "Babylon," not this "Babel"
that we don't understand.
What is the significance? Well, if you look
at Benedict Arnold, you have an immediate
association with that name, don't you?
What do you think about when you see that
name? "Traitor," right? How about Judas
Iscariot? Same thing, "traitor."
How about Satan? You have a connotation with
that name?
Right? "Evil, fallen angel."
So names have connotations that bring things
immediately to mind. And I would suggest
that the same thing should happen when you
think of the Tower of Babel. God was trying
to get you to think, when you hear "Babel"
or "Babylon," you should think of 'the
sinful city of confusion'. He made the word
play, "babel," "balel." That's what he wants
you to remember.
There's a word play for a reason, as we saw
in the other cases.
So Babylon is a sinful city of confusion.
Which brings us to our second sign post.
That's what Babylon is. It's a foreshadowing
of a system of rebellion that we're going to
see in the future in scripture, particularly
at the time at the end. It figures
prominently in the book of Revelation. I'll
point it out later.
But to
answer the question, "Did Babel exist?" yes,
it's actually the city of Babylon. We know
where Babylon is. So did the Tower of Babel
exist? Well, let's look at that.
So as I was saying, some believe Etemenanki
is the tower. Let's start by trying to
identify the location. So I thought we
should look at what the Bible listed as the
first of Nimrod's City. That makes
sense, where he would build the tower. And
Scripture tells us the first of the cities
were Babylon, Erech, Akkad, and Calneh, all
in Shinar.
So if that was the first city, and this is
where he began, it would make sense. At
least it seemed to make sense to me that
this is where they would build it. So what
are going to be our criteria? So I identify
12 things we could use to identify the site
of the tower, but we don't need to go
through all 12. We actually only need to go
through seven of them, seven key ones.
So is it in the right time period, which was
just after the flood?
It's a city in Shinar, within that region of
Shinar, in Mesopotamia, the land between the
two rivers. They were a people living in
peace with one language, so they were not at
war with one another. It was a city existing
with one name, and the name was changed to
Babylon. That's what God did.
They had plans to build a bigger tower. The
language was changed instantaneously, so
they spoke many languages when the building
stopped, and the building of the new city
and tower was abandoned without force,
without violence.
So these are going to be the clues that
we're going to use to identify where the
original tower was. So one of the first they
list is Babylon, and the name is Babylon. So
a lot of people think that the tower of
Babylon is in Babylon. Makes sense, right?
So in Babylon, we have this tower, which I
pointed out, Etemenanki. This is what's left
of what they believe to be the remains of
that tower. This tower was destroyed. Some
people believe it was destroyed by Alexander
the Great when he came and did his
conquering, but it's not there anymore. But
there are problems with it being in Babylon.
First of all, Babylon was conquered many
times. There's a list of all the people that
conquered the nation of Babylon. So they
were not a people living in peace. There was
evidence, as I said, that the tower was
built by Nebuchadnezzar. Here's a tablet
that shows, this is how they got this
depiction of Etemenanki, because they have
this "Ste-la" [stele] as they call it, and on, it has
this seven-tiered tower with the inscription
"Etemenanki, Ziggurat of Babylon," and
identifies Nebuchadnezzar as the builder.
This is why, this stone is another reason
why a lot of people believe that
Nebuchadnezzar built the Tower of Babylon.
They've got this stone. But as I pointed
out, he's in the wrong time period. He
cannot have built it. There are other
disqualifications. [James] Fuller notes,
he's a historian, he notes that by the time
Nebuchadnezzar started his building,
in order to have the manpower to do it, he
imported people from all nations everywhere,
people who were speaking different
languages. So if he's importing people from
all over the nations, then the dispersion
event that happened after Babel has already
happened.
And it
changed the languages. If they're speaking
different languages, that's also already
happened. So he cannot have been the builder
of the original tower, because all the
events that we're looking for have already
happened. So this Tower of Babel, that some
people say is the Tower of Babel, that's not
the Tower of Babel. That's a
Tower of Babel, it was built by
Nebuchadnezzar. Many years later, possibly
destroyed by Alexander, or maybe a number of
other armies, because
some say it's been built and rebuilt a
number of times.
Anyway, it doesn't exist now, and it's not
the Tower of Babel.
So we're going to move on.
Erech, also known as Uruk, part of the city
known as Babylon, populated from 21[00BC] to
70[BC]. Problem was it wasn't abandoned in
the time period after the floods. So if it
was populated during all this time, the text
tells us that they abandoned the city. The
city [of Erech] was not abandoned.
And it had a temple, but it didn't have a
tall ziggurat, or a tall tower. So probably
not that one.
How about Akkad? This is a mask that they
believe is from Akkad, from the Akkadian
Empire. But they've never really found the
city, which kind of makes it hard, if you
can't locate
the city, it's going to be hard to locate a
tower within the city.
Even so, it has problems. It was never
called Babylon. And again, the Akkadians
were one of the people who conquered
Babylon, so they were not a people living in
peace.
How about Calneh, which some people think is
modern-day Nippur. Now that's uncertain,
because depending on how you translate
Calneh in the Hebrew, you could also
translate it as "all of those together",
meaning all the cities that were before, all
together, and then it follows with in
Shainar. So some scholars believe it's
saying that this is where all the cities
were located. Others take it as Nippur. I'll
take it to be another city, Calneh as
Nippur. And if that is the case, it did have
a ziggurat.
This is a depiction of it. And there was a
temple mound there.
This is a mound, and this structure here is
a modern structure that archaeologists built
so they could do their work. But once again,
they weren't living in peace. So Nippur is
in the middle of two warring factions,
Babylon and Akkad, or in Ur. So Ur is down
here, and here's Babylon. And it was right
in here.
So this researcher, Jeff Allen, posits that
it was built sort of as a United Nations to
kind of keep peace between the warring
city-states. So if that's the case, this is
definitely not one people living in peace,
as the text describes, if you need a United
Nations to keep the peace. And there's no
record it was ever called Babylon. So it's
not Calneh. It's not Nippur.
Then you have Ur, where Abraham is from.
They have this great ziggurat. It was built
with big [baked] bricks, as the text says,
with bitumen between - a type of tar. So
that's all good.
But Ur has a number of disqualifications
too. So there are lots of signs of ritual
sacrifice. The city was taken by violence
and rebuilt a number of times, so they were
not a people living in peace.
In fact:
[Video] "George Heath White searches for clues on an ancient tablet that
contains shocking details of how Ur falls.
Re-inscribing the ancient symbols helps him
decode the poetic script. The painstaking
process gradually reveals the true horror of
the last days of Ur.
'So the text reads, "Urima, Gishtukal,
Sahagin, Sangazi, Iake."
And that translates as, "In Ur, weapons
smashed the heads like pottery."
The next line, "Izi, Imadan Gub."
Fire approached.'"
So clearly these were not people, one people
living together in peace. They were
conquered. The city was not just abandoned.
They were conquered and taken over and
people were killed.
It's not what it says about the tower and
the city. So this is not the city either.
It's not Ur.
So my conclusion here is that it's not one
of those ten cities listed as one of
Nimrod's first cities that he went and
conquered. Can't be. They do not fit the
description. So we'll have to expand our
search here in more cities and we're not
going to take the time to go through all of
these today. I'm just going to point you to
one in which I think it is, which is Eridu
down there.
So does Eridu meet the seven criteria, which
are, it has to be in the right time period,
has to be located in the plain of Shinar.
They have to be one people, one language
living in peace, not warring. They weren't
fighting with each other at the time.
They had plans to build a big tower. The
language was changed and along with that the
name was changed to Babylon and the city was
abandoned in peace. It wasn't conquered. It
wasn't taken over. It wasn't big war. They
just stopped building and left. That's what
happened. So does it meet these criteria?
So let's look at the time period. Eridu.
Described as the oldest city, in fact, one
recorded claim is that it was divinely
authorized, the first divinely authorized
city. So if we go back to this, Samarian
kings list. So they list Eridu as the first
city to receive kingship from the gods. So
this is pagan, so they believe they're gods.
But the point is they believe it was the
first one. After the flood, this is right
after the flood, gods said here, go build a
city and it's going to be Eridu and you're
authorized to do that. It's the point.
So note that in this account, it's right
after the flood and it's the first city. So
that makes it very early, so it's in the
right time period.
And it's located in Shinar. So there's Eridu
in Shinar. This is Mesopotamia, the land
between the two rivers. And there it is.
They were living in peace. There's no record
of any conquest being there. Didn't fall due
to wars.
They had plans to build a tower. In fact,
they had a tower and they had plans to build
a bigger one. So there are ruins here of
this first tower. Actually it was a series
of towers that they kept building on here,
the small one here. And then they had plans
to build a bigger one. This one outlined in
white here. But this new tower was never
completed. So this is a different view.
This is the smaller tower, which was
completed. And then they had plans to build
this huge thing, huge tower. You see how
many multiple times, much larger this tower
would have been.
"Let us build a tower up to the heavens."
This tower would have been able to go there.
So they have plans, but it was never
completed.
The language is recorded as having been
changed. Interesting.
So here we have, once again, referring to
Enmerkar and the Lord of Arata, this
pagan myth. But the myth references the god
Enki, who is called the Lord of Eridu, the
city that
we're looking at. And this Lord of Eridu is
said to have "changed the languages in their
mouths."
Now they've got the wrong god, but they've
got the right event.
Where do you suppose that they got this idea
that languages were changed in people's
mouths? That's a very strange idea.
You don't see that happening very often. I
would suggest that in the same way that you
have ancient people seeing dinosaurs, that's
why they can draw pictures. You have people
who saw the event.
So I do my museum tours, and I point out
that there are ancient people who've seen
dinosaurs, for instance, here in Angkor Wat.
So temple complex in Cambodia. They have
pictures of animals on the temple. And if
you do a close up, you will see this picture
of a stegosaurus.
This temple is some 800 years old, how could
they see a stegosaurus? It's not like they
had paleontologists running around back
then. How did they draw this picture of a
stegosaurus?
Or you can look at this chateau in France.
Chateau Des Chamboud, 16th century. If
you do a close up, they have a picture of a
sauropod dinosaur. Where did they see a
sauropod dinosaur in the 16th century? I
would suggest to you that they saw these
dinosaurs, and therefore they could draw
them.
And in the same way, there are people in the
history of Eridu who saw the change of the
languages in people's tongues.
Therefore they wrote about it. There was a
change of the language in their tongues. I
would suggest that there are people in their
history that experienced it, and that's why
they wrote about it on this tablet.
So we have the evidence that in Eridu, the
language was changed. And while we're here,
I want to emphasize this is a great miracle
that secularists won't point out. But if
you've seen The Ten Commandments, right,
Cecil B. DeMille, this is a depiction of the
parting of the Red Sea. Great movie.
This is an AI depiction of them not being
able to talk to each other after the
language has been changed at Eridu. So
they're kind of angry, right? They used to
be able to talk, and now they're babbling,
as we get from the Bible. They're babbling
in each other, and so they're kind of angry.
But don't miss that this is a huge miracle.
I put it on par with the miracles of the
Exodus. This is a huge thing. So just point
that out.
The name was changed. Eridu was also called
Babylon.
But Petrovus points this out that the king
of Babylon also called himself, the king of
Eridu. And in the 18th century, King
Hammurabi from the code that we're familiar
with referred
to himself as the king of Babylon. He was
crowned in Eridu.
And in fact, they had a religious quarter,
Esagila, which was eventually moved to
Babylon. But originally, it was at the site
of Eridu, and then the name was changed to
Babylon. So we have numerous references to
the name of Eridu being changed.
And in fact, Josephus notes that in his
account. When you read through his account
of the Tower of Babel in his Antiquities of
the Jews, he says, "The place wherein they
built the tower is now called Babylon." So
if it's now called Babylon, it used
to be called something else. Unfortunately,
he didn't tell us what that something else
is. But Babylon used to be called something
else. So the name definitely changed.
So people like Rohl and other secular
scholars kind of missed this. They missed
the fact that the name was changed because
God changed the name. God did it so they
can't acknowledge it, right? But God changed
the name, and even Josephus acknowledges
that.
And Eridu was abandoned. It was not
conquered. This is a history of Eridu. And
they note that Eridu appears to have been
abandoned. And by the time that the
Akkadians rose to power way back here, it
was already abandoned. By the time Babylon
started being conquered all these times,
Eridu had already been abandoned, just like
the scripture says.
So we have all this evidence that points to
the city that the original tower of Babel
was in Eridu, and the name Eridu was changed
to Babylon by who? By God. God called its
name Babylon because there he "balal"ed,
confused the language.
And here we have a picture. This picture is
by Doug Petrovich from Is Genesis
history?. This is his depiction.
And this is Rohl's picture in his book,
Legends. And you'll note that these are
basically mirror images. If I were to flip
this, this would look essentially like this.
So this is essentially the synoptic gospel
problem. You know, in the synoptic gospels -
Matthew, Mark, Luke - you have passages that
are essentially the same. And so scholars
wondered, why are these passages the same?
Is somebody copying from somebody? Probably.
You know, if you go to school and you turn
in a paper that's like somebody else's
paper, what is the teacher going to say?
You copied this, right? That's what they're
going to tell you.
Same problem with these texts.
So you have Matthew and Luke writing the
same thing.
So either Matthew copied from Luke or Luke
copied from Matthew. Most people think Mark
was first. So most of them think people
copied from Mark. And sometimes you see
Matthew, Mark, and Luke all have the same
text. The question is who copied from who?
Either A copied from B, B copied from [A] C,
or A and B copied from C. Some third party.
That's what I think happened here. I think
they both took somebody's depiction and used
it in their own works. I don't think this is
original with either one of them. It's
probably somebody else's, but that's just my
speculation.
So anyway,
did the Tower of Babel exist? Yes. It
existed and it was in Eridu. Was it
completed?
So was the Tower completed? Well, we can't
tell from the ruins. So this is the ruins
that's left in Eridu. So you can't tell, I
mean, as there was a mound there, you can't
tell if that was a
Tower or not. So we'll look at the
scriptures. If you look at the Hebrew, they
use the word for build. It's banu. It's
imperfect in Hebrew, which indicates action
in process. So if you look at scriptures
who translate from the Hebrew, you have the
translation that" "the Tower that the men
were building."
So present tense, they were building the
Tower.
You can also look at the Septuagint, which
is the Greek translation of the Hebrew
Masoretic text. It's called the Septuagint.
And they have the word 'ōikodomēsan, which
is an aorist, which indicates completed
action, which means it would already be
done. So then you have translations like the
ESV, which say, "the Tower which the
children of the
men had built". So some would say the
Tower the men were building, others
would say the Tower the men had built.
So we won't be able to determine directly
from scripture since we have conflicting
accounts. So which is correct? Context
determines meaning. A primary rule in
understanding scripture. So what does
scripture tell us? "The LORD
scattered them from all over the earth and
they stopped building the city."
Interestingly he doesn't mention the Tower.
It just says he met - they stopped building
the city. Why is that?
I would suggest it's because it's not
mentioned because there was one Tower that
was already completed, that smaller Tower in
the corner. They had plans to build a bigger
Tower, but that was never completed. And so
yes, there was a Tower and then they had
another Tower that they had made the
foundation
on, but it was never completed. [So it was
not mentioned to avoid confusion.]
Could the Tower reach into the heavens? So
to understand this, we have to understand
the ancient worldview of the heavens. They
had three heavens. So the first heavens was
the sky. So when you look at the creation
account, day one, two, three, four, and
five, so on, day two, God separated the
waters, right? He started off with water.
The first day he separated the light from
the darkness. Second day he separated the
waters below from the waters above. And what
did he call that was in between?
In between he called the raqiya
- an expanse,
which King James unfortunately translates as
"firmament," as if it's something hard. It's
not something hard because the raqiya is
where the birds fly that you read in Genesis
1:20. The birds are flying in the "expanse",
which God called "heavens." So this
"expanse" here with the waters above, which
is not the picture, that expanse is called
"heavens." So the heavens is where the birds
fly. So this is what I have depicted here.
You see the Tower of Statue of Liberty here.
The birds are flying, and essentially what
they would consider the heavens.
Second heavens is the stars - outer space.
Third heavens is the abode of God, where God
dwells, where Paul was taken up.
"I know a man who went to the third
heavens." [2 Cor 12.2]
That's the abode of God. So could the Tower
reach the heavens? Interestingly, God does
not deny that they could build a tower that
could reach the heavens. What does he say?
"The Lord said, 'If as one people speak
in the same language they have begun to do
this, then nothing they plan to do will be
impossible for them.'" He doesn't say,
"Ah, don't worry about it. They're not going
to be able to build a tower into heavens.
They can't reach me."
He says, "Nothing will be impossible for
them." None of their plans." And what were
their plans? Their plans were rebellion.
That's why he objected to what they were
doing. So none of the rebellious plans will
be impossible for them. So that's why he
stopped them. But he doesn't deny they could
build a tower into the heavens. Why is that?
Heavens is where the birds fly.
This is an AI picture of birds flying around
the tower. This is Etemenanki with the tower
reaching into the clouds. So they couldn't
reach the third heaven of God, but they
could reach the heavens where the birds fly.
Just to emphasize that, again, in my museum
tours at the Field Museum, they have a
depiction of the Mayan Temple. Another
temple is the Tikal Temple four, the tallest
Mayan building. And you can see this temple
towers over the trees. The birds fly in the
trees, sometimes above it, but this tower is
clearly over the trees.
This is another one of the buildings in the
Mayan complex at Tikal. So clearly they
could build buildings over trees which would
be into the heavens.
So could they build a tower that reaches the
heavens? If you understand their worldview
that where the birds fly is the heavens -
then yes, they could do that.
So what could we learn from this? What were
the effects?
Well, of course, one of the key effects was
a changing of the tongues, of the language,
in their in their mouths. It's clearly a
work of God. Here's another signpost, a
foreshadowing of God's use of tongues in the
future.
So where do we see it again? So in Babel, he
uses tongues to disperse people. Book of
Acts, chapter two, coming of the spirit,
they speak in tongues. God uses tongues to
bring them back together. It's like a
reverse of the Babel event. Now we hear each
other speaking in our own tongues [Acts
2.11] and that brought them together. So the
first command that God gave Genesis 9, be
fruitful and fill the earth, right? Go. And
they said, no, we're going to stay right
here, which is why he dispersed languages,
He dispersed people using languages.
Then they were there for the Passover
[should be: Day of Pentacost] and he wanted
to bring them together. And now he uses
tongues to bring them together.
So the confusion of the language has led to
dispersion of the people. So starting there
in the Middle East, they went throughout the
whole earth and this caused God's command to
be fulfilled. He told them in Genesis 9:1,
be fruitful and increase the number
reiterating the command he gave to Adam and
Eve in Genesis chapter one. [Gen 1.28] So
God made his will be done.
This is in contrast to the out of Africa
secular theory. So since I do museum tours,
I like to see other museums that we were
after we went to Hoover Dam we went to Las
Vegas and I went to the Las Vegas Museum.
And there they have this depiction of the
out of Africa, what they call the out of
Africa events. So that's the secular theory
of the origins of humans. They call it "Out
of Africa."
Most museums aren't as in your face as this
Las Vegas museum is. I've never seen one
that actually called it out of Africa. They
have the same theory but they don't tell you
that's what the theory is. This one actually
tells you, yeah, we believe this out of
Africa theory. So what is this out of Africa
theory?
So instead of being out of Shinar, they
believe it was out of Africa, Northeast
Africa, some 300,000 years ago with the
initial population, about 10,000 people.
And it was out of Africa here instead of out
of Shinar, which would be here. So those are
two different events, two different
evidences that we can actually test and see
which one is true.
Were the effects of the Babel event what we
see or were the effects Out of Africa what
we see?
So what do we see from after the babble
event? We see new people groups, new
language groups, new genetic distributions
with a decrease in the gene pool, diversity
coupled with genetic entropy, which led to a
decrease in the longevity of lives of
people.
So starting with the dispersion, so you had
the three sons of ham, Shem Ham and Japheth.
They were dispersed throughout the Middle
East. So there are where the brothers went.
And what are the implications of this
dispersal? So the men went to these various
places here. The women followed the men.
That led to people groups with distinct
languages and superficial distinctions and
traits like skin color, eye shape, because
they were now isolating gene pools all
predicted from the babble event.
You also have a geographically distributed
but locally concentrated Y chromosomes,
right? So the men dispersed.
The women followed the men. So the men went
to these various places. The wives went with
the husbands. This means that you have local
variations of the Y gene because the men
were going to various places, but you had
women of all types going with these various
men. So you have widely distributed Y
chromosomes.
You started out at Babel. They believe there
are originally 20 languages. There are
approximately 7,000 now, but you wind up
with about 20 languages. [Out of Babel.] And you can trace
the actual gene pools that were distributed.
So on the Ark, the people who were, the eight
people, Noah and his wife, his three sons and their
wives and we're told that the world was
repopulated by the sons of Noah. So these
six people, Genesis 10.32. So if you look at
the gene distribution, you can count how
many X and Y chromosomes, right?
X and Y, male and female, double X for the
women, X, Y for the men. You can count how
many variations we should see.
So these [small] X's [in the corner] represent duplicates, so we're
not going to count them. So how many X's
were used to repopulate the world?
Well, you can count them.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
eight. We would expect to see eight variants
of X chromosomes if the Babel event is true.
And how many Y chromosomes were there? Well,
these are all duplicates. All Ys came from
Adam, so Noah would have had Adam's. So we
would be getting the same Y chromosome, so
we would expect one variant of the Y. So
what do we actually find?
So these are the two predictions.
This is the out of Africa prediction. This
is the biblical prediction. The biblical
prediction is that it happened about 4,500
years ago with the Tower of Babel event.
There were six reproducing couples. We
counted. There were eight X chromosomes.
There's only one Y chromosome, which is
young, and mitochondria DNA, which exists
outside
the nucleus of the cell, inherited only from
the mother.
So it's not from the father. Mitochondria
DNA is only from the mother. And there were
three reproducing mothers.
So we would expect to see three different
types of X chromosomes. So what do we see?
What does the data support? The data
supports this biblical model. When you go do
the genealogical work, as Dr. Robert Carter
did, he talks about it in this DVD [Mitochondrial
Eve and the 3 "Daughters" of Noah] if
you want to see it. If you're looking at the
evidence, this is what the evidence
supports.
So the evidence supports the biblical model
of what happened after the Tower of Babylon,
Tower of Babel, some would say.
None of this [Out of Africa data] is
supported. The secular theory is not
supported.
Isolated people groups led to isolated gene
groups with different expressions of traits.
So here you see, if you start with middle
brown parents, you can get all shades of
people, right?
All different shades of melanin. They
represent the genes by A and B, whether it's
dominant or recessive. And based on whether
you have all dominant or all recessive or a
mixture, is where you get the skin shades.
And you can tell that from middle brown
parents, you can get basically all shades.
This is one couple with fraternal twins. You
can see one is lighter and one is darker.
This is one generation. One generation, you
see these variations. This is the twins a
little older. So it only takes one
generation to get these shade changes, which
is why I wondered, they felt like they had
to depict Ham as light skinned when he is
the father of dark skinned
people. There's no reason, genetically
speaking, why he couldn't be as dark as his
wife. So that was their choice.
I don't know if they have extra-biblical
data. I don't know what they made their
choice on. All I'm saying is genetically
speaking, Ham couldn't be as dark as his
wife, Kezia.
We see a decrease in longevity. So it's not
quite exponential.
It's pretty close. So I asked Grok. Hey
Grok, can you describe this curve as
exponential? It doesn't look like it to me.
What do you think? You say, well, loosely.
Grok says you can loosely describe it. [That
way] The point being is that there is a very
steep decrease in the longevity of people
after the event. And why is that?
Because these isolated gene pools led to a
higher rate of genetic entropy, loss of
genes. So summing it all up, we see that
Genesis 1-11 foreshadows a number of key
events in salvation history. This is our
symbol for the foreshadow.
This is the symbol of something that is
completed.
So what we see foreshadowed, we see the
first Adam right here in Adam. Answers in
Genesis [picture] again. The fulfillment of
that, of course, is the last Adam, Christ.
That has been fulfilled.
We see a foreshadowing of the first wedding
in Cana. [should be Genesis] And we know
that coming up is the wedding supper of the
Lamb. That's a future fulfillment that's
coming, but it's been foreshadowed.
We see the foreshadowing of the first family
in Adam and Eve.
And we know that God is even now building
his family of God for all who believe. "To
all who believe, he gave rights to become
children of God." John 1:12. So God is in
that process right now.
So we had the birth of the Messiah. It's
interesting, so when Eve makes this
proclamation in Genesis 4:1, she says, "I
have..." Well, your Bible translates it,
"with the help of the Lord, I have
gotten a man." Right? There's no "help of"
in the original. What the text records Eve
saying is, "I have gotten a man, the Lord."
As if she believes from what God told her in
Genesis 3, that from you the Messiah is
going to come.
It looks like she believes that she is born
the Messiah. Of course, the Messiah isn't
going to come for many years later.
It looks like, based on the phrase, that
your Bibles don't help you understand,
that she had the Messiah. But the Messiah
comes later. That's been fulfilled.
Of course, we have the judgment on all
wickedness with the flood. We know that's
coming with the lake of fire. That's a
[future]
fulfillment. Everybody wants to avoid that.
You can avoid that by believing in the
Messiah, Messiah Yeshua, Jesus the Christ.
We see a foreshadowing of filling the earth.
After they get off the ark, they are told
once again to fulfill the earth. Or fill the
earth, and that's also in process, God
making His family.
We see a foreshadowing of the lawless ruler,
and I believe that's Nimrod's place. He is a
foreshadow of the lawless one to come, which
has been depicted in Revelation 13, Daniel
chapter 7, called the lawless one and
symbolized as a leopard or Namer, as in part
of Nimrod's name. That's a future
fulfillment.
We see a foreshadowing of the sinful city of
Babylon. And in Revelation, it spends a lot
of time talking about the judgment of
Babylon, the sinful city, the fall of
Babylon the great. And if you had
understood, back in Genesis 11, that God
basically said, "This is a rebellious city,
and that's why I'm changing its name,
because they are confused. They shouldn't be
doing what they're doing." And that is a
type of judgment.
It was a light - considering the flood -
it's a very light judgment. But the judgment
to come is much heavier. That's a future
fulfillment.
And then we see the rescue by the personal
appearance of God.
So they were going to build this city, make
a great name for themselves, this tower that
reaches up to heaven. Though God can see
everything, he decides to personally go
down, "come let us go down." [Gen 11.5] God
personally goes down. Why?
To save them from themselves. What did he
say? If as one people speaking one language,
they do this, nothing will be impossible for
them. So all the rebellion they want to do
will be possible. So God personally goes
down.
And in the end times, we see Jesus
personally comes, why?
To rescue Israel and the rest of the world,
but Israel from the clutches of the
Antichrist, as the Antichrist has the whole
world in his power and wants to destroy
them. God personally comes, just as he
personally came at Babel. That's a future
fulfillment.
So we see the account of the Tower of Babel
completes the foreshadowing of the types of
the events that are in scripture.
And after the Tower of Babel, what do you
see? You see Abraham, the man of faith. And
now from Abraham on, you see an expounding
of the gospel of faith. Right?
Abraham is the man of faith. So we're no
longer given a bunch of symbols of what's
going to happen. Now we see how that faith
works out throughout the rest of scripture.
So the Tower of Babel ends a series of
firsts. It starts with a picture of
salvation and it ends with God coming down
and saving the
people. And then it goes on.
Genesis 12 begins the account of how faith
works itself out.
So here we have two depictions. This is,
once again, Petrovich's depiction of the
Tower. And this is the Answers In Genesis,
depiction of the Tower of Babel while it's
being built. Either way, I see the Tower of
Babel as the end of those beginning events
that foreshadow everything that's to come.
Thank you.